Following is the correspondence Teresa Kemp and I exchanged in July and August 2004. I have deleted email addresses and phone numbers,
but otherwise what you see is exactly as it appeared in our emails.
My questions are in italics; Ms. Kemp's words are in red, regular type.
So I have found you again. My communication "aburptly ended" when my PC got a virus and my e-mail address book was affected. All addresses were deleted. I had no name, address or phone number to communicate with you. When we do a quilt programs, we do talk to the people personally. You were never willing to do so.
My parents and I have done many exhibits for free and continue to do so. You could have called if you wanted to continue communicating with me or my parents and been honest. I do write to people that want information not just thoes who like me or thoes who want to print nice things about my family. I prefer to talk in person, face to face.
I do try to economize and schedule my activities around my children's activities since free time is very limited. I am a mother of eight and grandmother of seven! My husband is not connected in any way with Jackie's video release. He is a TV Director at a christian/ family programming station in Metro Atlanta. Other than being contacted twice with the information by my mother, you seem to know more about it than I do.
Since our phone numbers are public, I do not understand why you being such a "In the Know" person would not have called prior to printing incorrect information for the public to view! There are people who do not believe in Jesus, or that people have been to the moon. I do not publicly debate their views.
We do not infringe on anyones right to have their views. I do feel the need to provide the facts to thoes that would like to know. I have a problem with others that do not have the integrity of conviction to be honest in their communications and identify themselves or their motives. Honesty is important to trust. Why would I trust you with my families intimate details if you could not or would not even call or give me truthful contact information?
I was employed as a Computer Programmer Analyst at Georgia Pacific in Atlanta, GA. I was layed off 2003 and that did not increase my speaking schedule. I found another position that would enable me to further the goals of my children (now 14 & 16).
I go where I can, when asked. I did not evade the prices they have been between $10.00 (for gas) and up usually an honorarium. Depending on length and type of program. When we bring, mount, and show the exhibit it does cost us. Also the number of people we work with may change things. I have spoke to an entire school of 800 children, done hands on exhibits and arts and crafts at no charge. We speak to guilt guilds and have not charged and some have given us a gift.
We have limited our schedule because of health issues and also it is not what I do full time. I also have a daughter in college at OSU being a senior I have cost associated with her education. When my children are grown I will have more time on my hands and can research and write more.
We do free arts and crafts at festivals for patrons and give away fabric and information for teachers. Being empolyed by a company in a area of expertise does not mean I have no other knowledge of anything else. I coached gymnastics for many years and competed in 14 different sports that does not mean I do not know anything about science or history or computers!
Now that I have found you I have no problem responding to your questions. It is my families opinion that you are entitled to your view and that no rebuttle is needed. In a way I agree but I do want you to have the facts correct. Also it is interesting to me that you know a lot about my family but did not even give me your name! I do not know your parents or if you are married or have children.
So with that being said please call me at 614-252-5552 this morning. I am visiting my mother who had colon cancer surgery in Feburary. She was given three months to live but is doing fair. I hope that you will be sensetive to her condition and if you would like to be arguementitive focus that aggression at me!
My new work schedule may not allow me to attend all of your presentation but I do want come one day at least. I look forward to meeting you. I am off Wed/Thurs. I would like to meet you.
"My friends call me Terri.
The census information you site is not our family! I do not know who they are but that does not mean they are not distantly related to me.
My mother attended school in Williamson WVA and was not born there and her father is not named David! She did not say that. I do not know who mis-quoated her. ( Since you did not name your source)
I do hope to get the opportunity to attend your presentation. My children are still playing tennis and are currently in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. Their travel is not funded by Quilt lectures or the sell of quilting merchandise.
[Email to Fawn Valentine, which Ms. Kemp cc'd to me]
Good Morning Fawn:
I was sent an e-mail from Barabra Tagger of the National Park Service. In the e-mail a link to a web site was included to preview for an upcoming UGRR gathering. I was excited and interested and clicked on the link only to find an site with a page to prove the UGRR Quilt code information is fraudulent.
I no longer had the e-mail of the author due to a virus that hit many computers but did take this opportunity to respond to the points on the Hart Cottage Quilts web site. As I read the list and tried to see where he got false information, your note was the sole evidence of my mother Serena Wilson lying about her birhplace.
The information you wrote in your article was used to belittle my mother. I am sure that was not your desire. You said in the Quilt History excerpt, that "she said" she was born in Williamson, West Virginia. She attend school in Williamson, WVA when raised by her older half brother Fred Strother and his wife.
Please see the enclosed link and see where your information is used to discredit my mother.
I will send a copy of her brochure to the author of the Hart Cottage Quilts site, and other information if they will give me a correct name and address. I am disappointed that they took so much time researching census data that was not my family and did not bother to call us to verify your information prior to publishing it in a public fourm.
I do not feel you are responsible for what Leigh Fellner, Hart Cottage Quilts did with the information but please understand that anything you put in public fourm can be used in many different ways.
All of the information distributed freely at the programs my mother did also has a correct bio for her and clearly states she was born in Edgefield, SC. We also allowed time for questions and answers and stay until the last question was answered.
Often we ofter go to lunch or dinner with people if there is no time. In Athens, WVA at Concord University, We even went to a grave site of slaves whose families do not know what happened to them. When we travel and do programs there is never enough space to bring the entire collection or relate every fact but that does not mean -- it does not exist. We are limited by the space and time constraints of our host (who often decide the focus topics of our program) and what they want highlighted to the students or classes.
That correct bio information is in the same brochure that list her name address and phone number that you included in your letter.
Teresa R. Kemp
[Email I sent to QHL, Barbara Tagger and Fawn Valentine, cc'd to Ms. Kemp]
Despite Ms. Kemp's assertion, nowhere on my website did I ever state that Ms. Kemp's mother, Serena Wilson, was "lying about her birthplace".
What I did was simply cite and link to a Quilt History List message from quilt historian Fawn Valentine. In that message (and a followup), Ms. Valentine related what she heard Ms. Wilson state in a February 11, 2003 lecture at West Virginia's Bluefield State College, the second Wilson lecture Ms. Valentine had attended. Here is Ms. Valentine's message and followup:
http://www.quilthistory.com/2003/225.htm (last post on page)
http://www.quilthistory.com/2003/226.htm (second post on page)
To my knowledge Ms. Valentine is not known for sloppiness or fictionalizing. As a matter of fact, she took the trouble to post a followup message addressing points she apparently was concerned might not have been clear from her first post. However, if she was misinformed about Ms. Wilson's stated birthplace, Ms. Valentine would seem not to be alone. A May, 2003 West Virginia University press release concering an upcoming lecture by Ms. Wilson also states that she is "a West Virginia native":
Even presuming for the moment that both Ms. Valentine and WVU were misinformed (and setting aside questions about how that happened), I am left wondering why Ms. Kemp's energy is focused on this single and, some might say, tangental point, rather than on addressing the serious questions I and many others have raised about her family's "Quilt Code" claims.
To ensure clarity, I have updated my website to note Ms. Kemp's objections:
I will address all of the points that you have raised on the website. I am out of town at my mothers home and did not have information or time needed to address the other matters.
I look forward to reading the evidence you have supporting your family's claims.
I appreciate you being honest this time. I do not have the print out of your website but what is the most important to you. I'll start there.
Your time line is incorrect also. My mother's father was born in 1851 and died in 1941. Milton Strother. Slavery did not end in 1865 as I sure you may presume. Many people stayed in bondage years after into 1880's. Actually slavery still exist in many countries today. It has never ended in some places.
We are a National Park Service UGRR Network to Freedom Program and have been for several years. I live in Atlanta, the area with Barbara Tagger. The paper work to become a program was not submitted to this area since my mother lives in the north.
I will apply as a program and site when more of my research is complete. I believe I have located the plantation that they were on and other sites where they either stayed for a while and where slaves were assisted in escapes. I am waiting for photographs and other documents to prove the oral history.
One of the dilemmas I face is, If I give you the information prior to publishing it.... you have shown that you will publish first and twist the information. I still do not in my mother's words "understand what you have against us, we have done nothing to you and do not even know you!"
Here goes an attempt in the first part that seemed to offend my mother.
She is a native of WVa. She attended school in Williamson, WVA She married my father who was born, raised in Bramwell WVA. She was Ms. West Virginia (and held several other titles in pagents) graduated from HS in Williamson and attended West Virginia State College. My mother's sister is a charter founding member of AKA's at that school (WVSC-West Virginia State College) in Institute, WVA.
My father attended that school, as did his mother and her sisters. My great aunt is having her 70th Class reunion this October! My mother also attend Bluefield State College. The schools she attended are in her Bio. My mother lived with my father's parents in Bramwell, WVA also as did I and I attended school there also. Also my sister and my daughter attended WVSC.
My father has been the president of the national Alumni association for years (prior to 98). He received a honorary Doctorial Degree for his efforts to have WVSC become a University which it did. We still have family in Bluefield and Bramwell WVA . My great aunt is over 95. She taught math at Genoa High School over 40 years. My father's grandmother (Irene Jefferson) lived in Bramwell, WVA to 106 years of age. We still have property in our family there. What would make her not a native of WVA. They go to WVA atl least 10 times per year!
I have attended Mid Atlantic Slave Trade conferences and not only did several PhD's from all over the world presented papers and evidence to the contrary of your claims of the geography they also informed us that slave ships captain's diaries are in existance showing that illegal slave trade continued. Also there are many different ships documents that showed information to the contrary.
I'll send you an invitation to the next one I get. America is not the sum of information. The reason we bring african patterns to exhibit is because the patterns are documented and dated by african print makers. The patterns are even on the mummies in Egypt which predate the civil war and everyone elses information you put on the web site!
Also there were many areas of Africa West to East and south where slaves were taken in land disputes and inter-tribal feuds. Thoes people captured historically became the slaves of the captors. But it is very important to understand that it was not slavery in the "American" context. Let me know specifically what you would like and I will gather the details.
I have never been anything but honest with you, and I have not "twisted" any information; as a matter of fact I have been very careful to be sure that what I write is accurate. For example, I can document every statement you or your mother has made, either in articles (such as the one your mother wrote), in emails, or in notes of conversations or lectures. You will find that every other statement I make on my website has been carefully researched and documented.
I would ask the same of you. Rather than simply repeating the same claims you have made in previous emails, please provide actual EVIDENCE demonstrating these claims are true. Vague statements that, for example, you "heard it at a conference" are not going to be accepted as evidence by any thinking person. You need to be more specific. What, exactly was stated? By whom, and when? How can this be verified?
Acceptable evidence can be either what is known as a "primary source" (original documents or objects that can be shown to be from the period) or a "secondary source" (a book or scholarly paper which not only discusses a particular subject, but points to a "primary source" as the basis for its conclusions.)
For example, in an email to me you claimed that your family had "documents and other written information and it is not just from memory...That way we can tell if someone says their ancestor participated with mine in the development or spreading of the codes, I can tell". If these "documents and other written information" actually date from the 19th century, they would be the kind of "primary source" which might help support your claims.
I'll address your most recent email issue by issue.
First, I'm afraid you have confused your grandfather and great-grandfather. According to census records, there were two Milton Strothers - father and son. They are the only people by that name in the Edgefield, South Carolina censuses.
The first, Milton Sr., whom you seem to think is your grandfather, is in fact your MOTHER's grandfather. He was born in 1859. In the 1880 census he is described as single and living on the Edgefield farm of Henry Barnes, apparently his stepfather. Henry's mother, Ann Barnes, is black; Milton is the only one of her children who is surnamed Strother and described in the census as mulatto. Since Milton would have been born while Ann was a slave, it is not impossible that his father was a white member of the Strother family, who were among the largest slaveholders in Edgefield. That would support your mother's claim that an ancestor (her great-grandfather, not her father or grandfather) was a white son of a plantation owner.
In 1934 when your mother was born, both Milton and his wife, Martha (Frazier?) Strother, would have been about 75 years old. More logically it is their son, Milton Jr., who is your mother's father.
Milton Jr. was born in 1882. In 1934 when your mother was born, Milton Jr. would have been a much more plausible 52. By his first marriage, Milton Jr. had a son, Fred, born around 1902; Fred's mother died sometime between 1910-30. In the 1930 census, Fred is living in Wiliamson, West Virginia, where you say your mother went to school, along with his wife and 4-year-old daughter, both of whom are,strangely, named Serena. The census notes that Fred (the only one by that name in West Virginia) and both Serenas were born in South Carolina, and moved to West Virginia in about 1928.
If you want, I can provide you with links to original census records documenting this. If you can demonstrate that I am wrong, I would appreciate seeing comparable evidence.
In this last email you state that "She is a native of WVa." You just sent out an email claiming that your mother is NOT a West Virginia native. Which is it? If it is a typo, please proofread carefully, or you may find yourself being "misquoted" again.
Am I right in assuming that your mother left South Carolina when she was around 14?
At this stage I have to point out something important. As interesting as it may be to you, your father's education, your great aunt's school reunion, your mother being a Miss West Virginia, or where you and your children attended school - and, frankly, which Milton was your mother's father - has absolutely nothing at all to do with the "quilt code". I would therefore appreciate your focusing on addressing the matter at hand - your mother's MOTHER's family. For example, please explain how Eliza, born in Benin "in the early 1800s", could have been the mother of Nora, who herself gave birth to your mother in 1934 and was alive in the 1950s.
More than one person has described your mother as showing pictures of what they are led to believe is your family's plantation at her lectures. You now state that "I believe I have located the plantation that they were on". Whom do you mean by "they"?
You state that "I am waiting for photographs and other documents to prove the oral history". Are you saying that you and your family have been lecturing on this subject without having any proof? What would photographs prove?
I look forward to your responses.
You are close. My mother was born to the first milton strother. Her mother was his second wife. There are three children by the second wife and there are 23 Serena's. Ann is Milton's my Grandfather's white sister. I have a white cousin Lyn Borim who I have met and she still lives in Edgefield and she is white also.
Honest is giving me a name and phone number. I'll call and dig out the papers when you have time and then fax that evening or the next day.
I have no idea what Ann or Lyn Borim has to do with any of this.
You know my name - although what that has to do with anything is also doubtful. Would you give me a different answer if I gave you a different name?
I told you when we first corresponded, I don't do telephones. Particularly in this case, where I want to be sure to document whatever information you give me. I don't want you to come back later and say I "twisted" what you said.
So, how about the family that actually is supposedly involved in the "quilt code" - your maternal GRANDMOTHER?
Also, how about those documents you said you had?
No,my maternal grandmother's great grandmother participated in the quilt code.
Hello: I will be working and as I get time I will respond. I will also be traveling this week to my mothers again. My family just returned for being away for 3 weeks so I will have very limited time but I will try to gather the information for you.
Just noticed your desire to fax copies to me. That won't do, sorry; it'll have to be scans, both because I have no fax capability and because it's impossible to get the slightest idea of authenticity from a fax.
Incidentally, have you had these documents authenticated by an expert in 19th century manuscrips?
I do not have scan capability. NO many of the documents I have are copies of originals received from Historical sites between SC and Canada. Others are books that were written and published in Africa. Historians gave me copies of books that would refute the Daughters of Confederacy claims that the patterns were Civil War Patterns. They were African patterns and just because american historians did not bother to check or get other information does not make it true.
Your maternal grandmother is Mary Eva McDaniel-Strother, yes?
In other words, you're saying that Eliza is Mary's great-grandmother?
What, exactly, are these documents? Where did you obtain them? How, exactly, do they validate the existence of the "quilt code"?
What is your source for these "Daughters of Confederacy claims that the patterns were Civil War Patterns"? What about assertions from quilt historians regarding pattern dates?
What are the titles and authors of the books that refute these purported claims?
I would think that you'd want these documents published so that you can prove the validity of your claim. I could easily do so on my website. All you have to do is get scans of them, which you should be able to obtain at any copy shop, and email the jpgs to me.
Incidentally, just out of curiosity, when did your mother's father, Milton Sr., marry Mary McDaniel?
Let's start by getting an understanding of Africa and African history. What do you know of African textiles and print makers. That is the beginning of the pattern and the secret societies of Africa. Much like fraternities and sororities in American universities. Similar to Masons and Eastern Stars they are social organizations. Are you familiar with the above?
I did not ask the daughters of Conferderacy any questions about the patterns since they are on the mummies in the Valley of the Kings we did not feel the need to discuss it any further.National Geographic and the Discovery channel both ran the stories. Showing patterns that you are saying are 19th centry patterns. Egypt preceeded America and the squares are on buildings, mummies cercoficus's, on African peoples faces, fabrics, wood carvings, toys of children, shields of the royal child the prints were made for and on the fabric for his wives and families when they had royal occasions.
Why would I want to make public my family information on your web site prior to publishing it ourselves? What I will do is after we go to print I do not mind giving you a chapter or scans of information as we announce it. In the past many of the people we have trusted and given information to published it in some form or fashion and did not do it in context and made it sound ridiculous.
I have never gotten the impression that you are treating my family story as if it is a wonderful addition to history and something to be appreciated. Many people were imprisoned, suffered for knowledge of or assisting slave escapes and their land taken. Others were Killed or mutilated and died rather than give up this information. Black people and others of different races and faiths were persecuted and we feel should be honored not ridiculed. We are trying to unite people and discuss that not all southern people mistreated slaves.
Free African American people assisted in their own destiny. There was an African American middle and upper class in America. Also their are many books that have Slave narratives discussing that slavery and escapes began in the 1700 here in America. So I should first send you a study list. Have you read the Ball book Slaves in the Family. They document slaves on their southern plantation back to the 16oo's.
Leigh: Where will you be in October? I will gather information and try to put it all in one place for an exhibit that will explain many of the questions you have. I usually bring the books and have a teachers reading list that are age group appropriate with study guides free of charge. I also bring a accordian folder of copies of original documents I have gotten from historic sites we visited on our trip in 1999, with the exception of our family papers.
I also visit historic sites when my children travel and I am given some and I buy some. I do research at the National Archives (here in Metro Atlanta) where we obtained copies of some of the census data, the Auburn Avenue African American Library, the Fulton county Library which has on floor dedicated to geneology. We have birth and death certificates, family bibles, military records and church records and Masonic records and much much more.
I have not had any of the information I have obtained from the National Archives authenticated but it does add hard copies to the oral history and information I was given.
I think your family story is "wonderful" only as a story. As history, I have not seen anything that shows me it has any foundation in fact - frankly, it has so many holes it does not even read well as fiction. There are plenty of first-person accounts of slaves' ingenuity and resourcefulness in more than 200 authenticated slave autobiographies. There is no need to promote fiction as fact. To do so would not be helpful, but destructive.
If you and your family want to publicly promote your story as history, then you should not be surprised if people interested in history expect you to provide actual evidence that what you claim is true. This is particularly the case when you appear in schools and public institutions and apply for Federal funding.
I agree with you: You are certainly within your rights to hold onto any information you like "until you go to print", or forever, for that matter. However, that leaves me no choice but to explain to readers of my website (my "quilt code" debunking page gets an average of 1,700 visits per month) that although you again made contact with me, and again offered to answer questions, that when it came down to actually answering those questions, you refused to do so.
Here are the questions I asked you two years ago, but which you recently said you were prevented from doing because you lost my email address in a virus attack. Actually, this list is quite a bit shorter; you can address each one by number.
Whose account is correct, yours or your mothers? (Please note that this was "private" information until your mother made it public and the foundation for her claim that a "quilt code" was passed down in your family.)
If Eliza is your grandmother Mary's great-grandmother, please explain who Nora's mother is and why she is missing from all of your mother's published accounts of the "Quilt Code".
If you have birth and death records of the people you say were involved in the "quilt code," it would be interesting to see scans of those, as well as documentation regarding Peter Farrow's status, although none of it would be evidence such a "code" existed.
It would also be interesting to see a scan of the marriage license of Milton Strother Sr. to Mary McDaniel. Of course it has no direct bearing on the "quilt code" story, but given the questions regarding the relationship between Eliza and your mother, it's not unreasonable to doubt her claims about Milton Sr. vs. Jr. (Marriage licenses commonly indicate not only the parties' ages but the names of their parents.)
For accuracy's sake, I'll repeat the question I asked the other day:
In your email of 7/22, 7:28 PM you state of your mother that "She is a native of WVa." The day before, you sent out an email complaining that your mother had been misquoted, and claiming that your mother is NOT a West Virginia native. Which is it?
Still not sure why, when you have been presented with an opportunity to set the record straight and convert me to your views, you refuse to provide scans of family papers. Have they been authenticated by a specialist in 19th century manuscripts?
I sent the e-amil saying that my mother was not born in WVA as Fawn claimed. She does say she is a native of WVA. She is currently president of the Liberty HS organization and they are having a reunion in Col. OH on Aug 5th.
Okay. I like this list of questions. I will prepare answers to your questions and get the information to you.
I just returned from South Carolina taking care of family affairs with my mother. Then Thrusday I dropped my son in TX and returned last night. I will print the questions.
I will have this Wed & Thursday off work and my hours are from 9:00 -8 or midnight. Do not be worried by my silence. I will be dilligent. It is very important to us and others that the information be correctly disiminated.
There are many things that I have learned that I had to dig a long time before I found any evidence of the facts but I was never narrow-minded enough to believe that since I never saw a purple frog that one did not exist in the world. They are green in America but that is not the measure of science nor history.
It is very tempting to be sarcastic but I am very serious about wanting you to understand the facts and that ours is a positive story that should unite north and south. People have commented that this is the first presentation on slavery that they came away from not feeling bashed for being white and from that south!
We try to provide a balanced view that slaves were not taken from Africa but were selected for their skills. These skills were missing when Europeans came to the US and still are not much more advanced today.
African labor was needed to grow rice, cotten, indigo, work with metal (blacsmiths), textiles, cattle, raise and train horses, hunt and the Africans that surrived the trip were accustomed to working in hot and humid conditions. Many places they were looked upon as disposible and other places they were treated like family (They were family). They were used for breeding children that would be sold as laborers. European women had (no desire) or difficulty having large numbers of children and african women commonly had 18 to 22 children. Large tracks of land needed large numbers of specialized laborers. In Slaves in the family they detail a laundry list of people and skills they needed.
We have copies of plantation records that list the items that were purchased including people and the skills that were needed for various plantations. We have copies of agreements for laborers and monies and time periods they worked.
There are millions of slave narratives, some are not accessible by internet and many are. There are now a website by the Sate of CA the details the slave owners that insured their slaves and if they collected. It shows their address names policy and a description of the slave insured!
Have to run more later.
I think you are missing a great or two from Eliza place. I will do a tree for you but I am still at work and they are calling me.
Ms. Kemp, if your mother was not born in West Virginia, she is not "a native of" West Virginia. She is a "native" of whatever state she was born in.
Webster's Online Dictionary: belonging to a particular place by birth native to Wisconsin
Encarta: born or originating somewhere: born or originating in a particular place
Cambridge International Dictionary: relating to or describing someone's country or place of birth or someone who was born in a particular country or place: She returned to live and work in her native Japan. She's a native Californian
Was your mother born in West Virginia, or not? You have stated both. Please clarify.
She was not born in WVA. Do not have time to find definations for you of people who moved some where and lived there a long time and are thereby concidered from a locale. I repeat she was born in SC.
So if a person were born in Germany and immigrated to America when he was 15, you would say that person was a "native" of America?
If the person is now 70 yes. Oh I did mean to tell you it was not our decision to go public. Jackie Tobin selected my Aunt to write about. Once the book came out then she and Ramond were under attack for what everone said was a made up story. My aunt was deseased! I have always know the information but never went public.
We then let Jackie know she is not the Griot for our family but my mother is and knows everyone, where the are what the did, where they lived, their children and their children's children. She did all the research on the oral history and had documented a lot. Most middle aged people want to know about their families and some younger ones also. Anyway after Jackie seemed to become the voice for our family it became necessary to call the authors and the publishers and publist for them and let them know we were alive and quilting.
We were asked to attend press conferences and some of the appearances they were making since they did not even have all the infomation or know how the code fit. They talked with my aunt 3 time and did some research and wrote the book! We agreed. That was also one of the ways we could take control of our family story and be sure it was accurately told. Also Jackie was not the keeper of the sacred Quilt Code for the Black Race as had been portrayed in some articles that are still available on the internet for your review!
We could have taken them to court but we chose to be supportive and we truely are honored that a Women's history professor selected my aunt to be the subject of her book. It was unfortunate that they waited until she passed to publish.
We have heard a lot of negative information about some people who find older African-Americans buy their "art", have their friends buy the folk art, video tape them, and when they pass they are the owners of Original Folk Art and do books, videos write grants for world tours. It had been told to me that it is a form of sharecropping. The elderly live on their land and in exchange they give them pieces of their art.
I am not saying that is what Jackie did but that is one of the topics my co-workers told me about when the articles about hidden in Plain View came out. They did not know it was my family. I just listened. That is when I had to decide what to do. As I met these collectors on a buying trip. Some stopped in Atlanta and asked to see my quilts. They wanted one of the quilt squares my daughter made but I explained it is part of a 5 generation quilt we are making.
They purchased 14 quilts in Alabama for 200.00! All hand made originals I could not believe it.
Well that began my immediate family having to be more public with exhibits and programs or it would have been taken over by these other groups.
Have to run back to work.
Are you saying that Tobin misreported what your great-aunt voluntarily told her? And that your family is trying to set the record straight?
Please specify what you believe is inaccurate in Tobin's book, on what basis you could have "taken them to court".
Finally, what "other groups" "would have taken it over"?
Still waiting for answers to the questions I sent you last week.
|Do not have time to
find definations for you of people who moved some where and lived there
a long time and are thereby concidered from a locale.
So if a person were born in Germany and immigrated to America when he was 15, you would say that person was a "native" of America?
If the person is now 70 yes.
So you're basing your definition of "native" on how long a person's lived somewhere.
Looks like your mother's lived in Ohio for at least the past 36 years. This means that unless she left South Carolina when she was two, your mother has lived in Ohio longer than she did in West Virginia.
By your reasoning, that makes your mother a "native" of Ohio, not West Virginia.
Or do you think she's a "native" of both?
I will be out of town for about a week
and am wondering whether I can anticipate receiving the copies of documents
which on July 23 you offered to send, as well as answers to the questions in my
email of 7/26/04 4:08PM.
If the cost of photocopying and mailing is a problem, please let me know and I will send payment to you in advance.
Cost is not a problem. I
have been working from 9:00 am to 10 or 12 :00 pm to get ready for some
upcoming financial events with my family. When I am not working I am on the road
with my children's tennis. I slee[p on the plane. :-)
There will be time soon. That is why I told you I would be traveling. My son's tournament in Kalamazoo is over around the 15th of Aug. He is in the Quarter Finals of Boy's 16's doubles and lost yesterday in Singles. I wanted to fly to his match or to see my mother but with the storms delays and cancelations are inevitable so I would not make work Fri morning.
Ustaboys.com has info on when his tournament is over and the magnitude of the tournment. Being a mom comes first. I am also expecting a new grandchild!
More than a month ago, you offered to
send me documentation which you says proves your claims, as well as answers to a
list of questions I sent you on July 26.
It is now August 31. I have not received any such answers or documentation from you.
Surely if you are giving presentations on the subject, such documentation must be close at hand. After all, on July 23 you wanted to fax it to me "the next day".
You must realize that this kind of delay leads reasonable people to believe that no such documentation actually exists.
I am preparing to update my website within the next two weeks, and would appreciate either receving what you promised before then, or hearing from you that you either will not or cannot provide any evidence of the claims you and your family continue to make.